Wednesday, August 07, 2002
goldfinger is jacking song lyrics from ryan and i.
they have some new song out, and the chorus yells out SHOT IN THE HEAD, BETTER OFF DEAD. it prehaps one of the most glorious moments of my life when ryan pointed it out to me when we were listening to it the first time. i wasn't really listening, but he heard it and was like OH MY GOD!!! so next chorus we flipped out, because it really said that. anyone who knows me and ryan knows that this is one of our favorite mantras to repeat at work to make the day go faster. it has since extended to other things we don't really want to do.
anyways...
a few interesting discussions about religion today. on the dave ross show on 710 or whatever he's on, they were discussing the required book they are making freshmen read at UNC about islam. i don't really care, it might be an interesting read if i had to read it, but honestly i wouldn't pay much attention. but i wouldn't be offended because i had to read it. it is a book that is trying to show that there is a lighter more peaceful side to the rest of islam that doesn't include militant radical terrorists who live to destroy everything american. so, some christan fundamentalist group from virginia or something is sueing UNC for forcing people to read this book. they had a representative on from this group. he claimed it wasn't bad that they were teaching islam. he believed that people should have their eyes opened to the true ways of islam. but he wanted peoples eyes to be opened to the hateful passages from the qu'ran (koran? how do you even spell it). he was making all sorts of brash generalizations about how "those people" think and why "those people" are terrorists. by those people, he meant muslims, i'm assuming. he was basically one of the hugest morons ever... dave ross wasn't taking him seriously at all, and basically refuted every single point this dude tried to make. in my opinion, he made this guy look like an idiot. dave ross read that passage from the bible in samuel or whatever where god orders people to exterminate all women, children, men, and livestock from one of the opposing tribes of some biblical figure. the dude got all huffy and claimed he was twisting the words of the bible by offering up perverted examples of scripture. Dave Ross was like, what the hell, perverted? i just read that verbatim. all of us who were listening busted up laughing. anyways, the guy went on to claim that all muslims were terrible, basically because the weren't christian. he also said if i heard it correctly, that there would be peace if the stupid muslims could just break down and finally accept the christan moral code as the right way to live.
it got pretty rediculous. this guy was a boob, and ended up looking like an idiot. even still, the guy left the interview claiming he had proven his point, and that things had gone well for him. this is why religious debates are stupid. I try not to involve myself in them. i'm not trying to push stereotypes or anything here, but a lot of the christian people i've met who have insisted on debating religion have been impossible to reason with. online, pretty every forum or whatever you read, there will be a debate about religion. it pretty much ALWAYS ends with the atheists/pagans/agnostics/muslims/buddhists/whatevers getting pissed and refusing to argue anymore, and the fundamentalist christians who were still arguing poorly thought out points filled with baseless statements of the absolute claimed a grand victory in the name of the lord. there are some people who can debate for christianity very well. i have met and discussed religion with people and we have both left satisfied not because either of us proved any points, but because we came to understand how the other person was thinking better. i'm sorry, but most fundamentalist christians can't debate the topic worth shit because they aren't even willing to THINK that christianity might not be the right answer for everyone. it is a topic that can't be decided one way or another. most people just get annoyed and stop discussing it after a while. this is why i don't discuss religion with other people very often, because it is usually just a huge waste of time that pisses me off and leaves me annoyed and ranting.
anyways, flame on, i don't really care. people have gotten pissed at me before for saying similar things. i'm not denouncing christianity, just a small portion of christians who make me mad. its one of those "God protect me from your followers" type deals.
they have some new song out, and the chorus yells out SHOT IN THE HEAD, BETTER OFF DEAD. it prehaps one of the most glorious moments of my life when ryan pointed it out to me when we were listening to it the first time. i wasn't really listening, but he heard it and was like OH MY GOD!!! so next chorus we flipped out, because it really said that. anyone who knows me and ryan knows that this is one of our favorite mantras to repeat at work to make the day go faster. it has since extended to other things we don't really want to do.
anyways...
a few interesting discussions about religion today. on the dave ross show on 710 or whatever he's on, they were discussing the required book they are making freshmen read at UNC about islam. i don't really care, it might be an interesting read if i had to read it, but honestly i wouldn't pay much attention. but i wouldn't be offended because i had to read it. it is a book that is trying to show that there is a lighter more peaceful side to the rest of islam that doesn't include militant radical terrorists who live to destroy everything american. so, some christan fundamentalist group from virginia or something is sueing UNC for forcing people to read this book. they had a representative on from this group. he claimed it wasn't bad that they were teaching islam. he believed that people should have their eyes opened to the true ways of islam. but he wanted peoples eyes to be opened to the hateful passages from the qu'ran (koran? how do you even spell it). he was making all sorts of brash generalizations about how "those people" think and why "those people" are terrorists. by those people, he meant muslims, i'm assuming. he was basically one of the hugest morons ever... dave ross wasn't taking him seriously at all, and basically refuted every single point this dude tried to make. in my opinion, he made this guy look like an idiot. dave ross read that passage from the bible in samuel or whatever where god orders people to exterminate all women, children, men, and livestock from one of the opposing tribes of some biblical figure. the dude got all huffy and claimed he was twisting the words of the bible by offering up perverted examples of scripture. Dave Ross was like, what the hell, perverted? i just read that verbatim. all of us who were listening busted up laughing. anyways, the guy went on to claim that all muslims were terrible, basically because the weren't christian. he also said if i heard it correctly, that there would be peace if the stupid muslims could just break down and finally accept the christan moral code as the right way to live.
it got pretty rediculous. this guy was a boob, and ended up looking like an idiot. even still, the guy left the interview claiming he had proven his point, and that things had gone well for him. this is why religious debates are stupid. I try not to involve myself in them. i'm not trying to push stereotypes or anything here, but a lot of the christian people i've met who have insisted on debating religion have been impossible to reason with. online, pretty every forum or whatever you read, there will be a debate about religion. it pretty much ALWAYS ends with the atheists/pagans/agnostics/muslims/buddhists/whatevers getting pissed and refusing to argue anymore, and the fundamentalist christians who were still arguing poorly thought out points filled with baseless statements of the absolute claimed a grand victory in the name of the lord. there are some people who can debate for christianity very well. i have met and discussed religion with people and we have both left satisfied not because either of us proved any points, but because we came to understand how the other person was thinking better. i'm sorry, but most fundamentalist christians can't debate the topic worth shit because they aren't even willing to THINK that christianity might not be the right answer for everyone. it is a topic that can't be decided one way or another. most people just get annoyed and stop discussing it after a while. this is why i don't discuss religion with other people very often, because it is usually just a huge waste of time that pisses me off and leaves me annoyed and ranting.
anyways, flame on, i don't really care. people have gotten pissed at me before for saying similar things. i'm not denouncing christianity, just a small portion of christians who make me mad. its one of those "God protect me from your followers" type deals.
